The meeting was attended by the heads of media agencies from Brazil, China, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and the UAE. It was moderated by Head of the Rossiya Segodnya Media Group Dmitry Kiselev.
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President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Colleagues, gentlemen, friends,
I am very glad to see you. Our group is expanding; we have made more friends within BRICS, and there is significant interest in its activities. Both my colleagues and I have said this many times. Of course, this interest is also growing thanks to your work, support and coverage of what we do together with our colleagues and friends, the heads of BRICS countries.
The summit will begin soon. Ahead of it, we will host the President of the United Arab Emirates for a visit the day after tomorrow. We have an informal dinner scheduled for Sunday here, followed by the visit on Monday. On Tuesday, we will commence our work in Kazan.
We have a very busy agenda planned. A great deal has happened over the year of Russia’s BRICS chairmanship, which I believe will be of interest to you. I will be happy to discuss this briefly. Please forgive me, but I will not go into detail, as it is impossible to retain all the information in mind at all times due to the diverse and comprehensive nature of our cooperation. We collaborate in all areas, and I think you will be interested in talking with specialists on each of them.
I hope that you, your colleagues or your teams will have the opportunity to speak with professionals, including during the summit in Kazan.
Perhaps that is all I wanted to say at the beginning. I will now give the floor to you, so as not to take up more of your time. I will do my best to answer your questions as fully as I can on every aspect of our conversation today.
Go ahead, please.
Dmitry Kiselev: Mr President, we are very grateful to you for finding the time in your insanely intense schedule to meet with us.
This intensity is evidenced by the fact that in four days in Kazan, you will not only take part in the summit and have a big news conference, but also hold over two dozen bilateral meetings. You are absolutely right that it is difficult to wrap one’s mind around it.
Vladimir Putin: Seventeen.
Dmitry Kiselev: Seventeen, right – about two dozen bilateral meetings.
The meeting we are holding now is crucial not just to us personally, but to the entire planet, because the media represented here have a total audience of several billion people. We will get across your answers to our questions to our viewers, listeners, and readers.
I would like to ask the first question. Perhaps it will be somewhat general. The world is changing so rapidly that sometimes we cannot keep track of how different is has become. What are the signs of these changes and what opportunities do they open for BRICS?
Vladimir Putin: The most important sign is the emergence of new development centres. This is the most important sign. According to experts, whom I trust and whose opinions I heed, this development will be focused primarily in BRICS countries. This is the Global South, Southeast Asia and Africa.
Powerhouses like China and India will record positive growth. Positive growth will also be in Russia and Saudi Arabia. But countries of Southeast Asia and Africa will demonstrate outstripping growth rates, and for several reasons.
First, the development level in those countries, where positive but limited dynamics is expected, indicates that those countries have already reached a certain level of development. Second, those countries that I have mentioned, that will have outstripping growth rate, still have an insufficient level of urbanisation and a high rate of population growth. Without doubt, these two factors will influence the formation of new centres of economic growth to be followed by enhancing political influence.
Regarding BRICS countries like China, India, Brazil and South Africa, it is evident that their expanding economic potential will lead to their bigger global influence. This is an undeniable fact and it simply reflects objective reality.
As my colleagues, partners and friends have often noted, BRICS represents 45 percent of the world’s population, covers 33 percent of the Earth’s land area, and has a continuous growth in trade and global commerce.
I recently spoke with the BRICS Business Council and entrepreneurs from our nations, sharing the figures I have previously mentioned. When comparing 1992 to 2023, the combined growth of the BRICS countries’ share in the global GDP has doubled, while the growth of the G7 countries has slowed down. By this measure, the BRICS nations have already surpassed the G7. Moreover, it is evident that by 2028, this trend will continue, with the gap favouring the BRICS countries only widening. This is a clear and undeniable fact.
In certain sectors, humanity’s existence is impossible without the BRICS countries, particularly in food and energy markets and so on. However, in high-tech fields, especially in the development and application of artificial intelligence, we are not only acquiring competencies but also emerging as leaders in certain areas. This represents a significant shift, one of the most important and noticeable changes in today’s world.
This is a natural occurrence, and there is nothing wrong with it. The world is always evolving, and new leaders continuously emerge. We should accept this calmly as a reality and focus on building our relationships with one another accordingly.
What sets BRICS apart from many other international organisations? BRICS was never meant to be created in opposition to anyone. The Prime Minister of India put it best. He said BRICS is not an anti-Western alliance; it is simply non-Western. This distinction is very important and has great meaning. That is, BRICS does not set itself in opposition to anyone. It is a group of countries that work together, guided by shared values, a common vision for development, and, most importantly, by the consideration of each other’s interests. This is the foundation on which we will be working in Kazan.
Dmitry Kiselev: Thank you, Mr President.
It is true that BRICS countries make up 45 percent of the planet’s population, but even if BRCIS does not make the global majority, then it definitely represents it, because many countries that are not part of BRICS wish this group success and share its values.
I am very happy to present Mr Fan Yun, my colleague from China, who is the editor-in-chief at CGTN and deputy editor-in-chief of China Media Group, deputy of Mr Shen Haixiong. We are giving him the floor first in view of your personal relationship with President Xi Jinping and special relations between Russia and China. Afterwards, we will move clockwise.
Please, Mr Fan Yun.
Deputy Editor-in-Chief of China Media Group, CGTN Director and Editor-in-Chief Fan Yun (retranslated): Mr President,
I am very glad to represent Chinese media at this meeting.
The BRICS summit in Kazan is the first one after the group’s expansion, so we are paying special attention to it. How do you think BRICS countries’ growing role and BRICS expansion will help promote its influence?
You have already mentioned that the group overall accounts for over 33 percent of the global GDP. What contribution will this make to the development of the entire world?
Vladimir Putin: Now BRICS includes ten countries. Each of them is of interest and value to the world community and, of course, to such group as BRICS. Each of these countries has its unique culture, its unique history, its own advantages in the global division of labour, and interaction with these countries is of interest to all BRICS participants.
Of course, when new players, new participants – full-fledged participants – appear and join any international organisation, they make their own contribution. And here it is very important for them to respect the principles on which BRICS was created, and it was created by three countries. The first step was made by Russia, India, and China, we did it together. At that time we created RIC in St Petersburg, Russia, India, and China. Later, it started to expand. On the other hand, however, all countries in the group should also respect the new participants’ interests.
This year, we have done everything within Russia’s capacity to smoothly and gradually integrate all our new members into the group’s activities. In fact, we have 250 events planned across various sectors, with 200 of them already completed.
The decision to accept new countries was no coincidence. These are countries and people we know well, with whom we have collaborated in various fields over a long period. Now that we are working together within a single group, we have created platforms for exchanging ideas and exploring potential joint projects across a range of sectors. While economic cooperation is our primary focus, we are also placing significant emphasis on developing people-to-people and humanitarian ties in such areas as culture, cinema, youth exchanges, and more.
We have been working hard on these tracks throughout the year, and the results show we are on the right path. It is clear that expanding the group was a positive and right decision. I am fully convinced that this will undoubtedly boost our influence and authority on the global stage, something we are already witnessing.
You know that each new country brings its close allies along in various areas. When a country joins the group, its partner nations naturally take an interest in what is happening and often express a desire to collaborate as well.
As I have mentioned many times before, around 30 countries have expressed interest in cooperating with BRICS in some form or participating in its activities. This is a clear and visible impact of our recent expansion. In fact, another wave of interest is already building on the heels of this one. However, we need to carefully consider, alongside all BRICS countries, how best to approach further expansion.
One thing is certain: we will not turn anyone away. The doors are wide open. The question now is how to structure this process, and my colleagues and I, along with our friends, will discuss all these matters when we meet in Kazan.
To be continued.