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I was told that you wanted to see my dog,

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Yume. You can see that she is in great shape.

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Thank you very much. The dog is very cheerful indeed.

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We would like to thank you again for finding time to grant an interview 

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to Nippon TV and Yomiuri Shimbun.

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This dog is an Akita from Akita Prefecture,

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and we are glad to see Yume happy and cheerful.

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However, we were a bit surprised and afraid that 

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the beginning of the meeting would be like this.

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You were right to take caution,

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Yume is a no-nonsense dog.

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There are many people here, with camcorders running,

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lights shining and cameras clicking. She is being a guard dog.

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Well, I believe the dog always defends you like this.

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Yes, she does.

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So, very soon you will visit Japan as President.

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I believe you are very busy.

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The last time I was in Japan as President of Russia was 11 

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years ago, if memory serves.

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I later visited in my capacity as Prime Minister.

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However, I am in regular contact with Prime Minister Abe.

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We have met several times this year.

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This time you will meet and talk with Prime Minister Abe in Yamaguchi 

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Prefecture, the place he calls home.

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What do you expect from this meeting?

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I have a huge interest in Japan, which is well known,

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including its history and culture,

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and so it will be very interesting for me to see and learn 

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more about Japan. I have been to Tokyo and several other cities,

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but I have never been to Yamaguchi Prefecture.

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I wonder what it is like, what interesting things it has to offer.

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I am sure that Prime Minister Abe will tell me all about it.

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There are also hot springs there. Do you like hot springs?

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This never occurred to me, but yes, it could be interesting.

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You are well known in Japan as a judoka.

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In the Kodokan Institute Hall in 2000 you demonstrated your 

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throwing technique. Your image as an athlete has made a strong 

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impression in Japan. Let me say a few words about judo.

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We asked famous and respected master Mr Yamashita to share his 

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impressions of his meeting with you. We recorded this interview.

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Please watch it ‒ it is about a minute long.

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(viewing a video)

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(Yamashita): I met with the President not as an athlete before a fight.

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We discussed the issue of the four islands,

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and I was always stunned by his abilities.

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He is not at all like other presidents.

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A man holding such a high position is willing to talk to us.

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I recall different instances. Sometimes his words sounded chilly.

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But so what? After all, he is always defending Russia’s interests.

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So regardless of the fact that he likes judo,

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there is no reason to expect him to act in Japan’s interests.

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Did you like it?

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It is a pleasure to hear that.

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Mr Yamashita is a respected judo master not only in Japan 

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but across the world.

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To me, he is an example of an outstanding athlete and a very good man.

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Judo has been part of Japanese culture for a long time.

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It makes sense to me that this sport,

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which is both athletic and philosophical,

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was created in Japan.

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It is based on respect for the partner and for our elders as our 

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teachers, which is very important and makes a strong,

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positive contribution to human relationships,

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and not only in sports.

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I am happy that life brought me to this wonderful sport as a child.

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It is like my first love.

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I like other sports, too, including skiing and swimming,

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and I am learning to play ice hockey now.

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But judo is definitely part of my life, a very big part,

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and I am glad that judo was the first sport I took up and that I have 

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practiced it regularly and seriously.

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I am also grateful to Japan for this.

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When you were in Japan in 2000,

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you visited Kodokan. Are you planning to visit it this time as well?

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Honestly, I do not even know whether this is on the visit itinerary,

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but if there is time, I would be pleased to go to Kodokan.

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For anyone interested in judo, who loves judo,

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Kodokan is a special place.

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Kodokan is, to a large degree, a trendsetter in the sport.

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This school trained outstanding masters and is a kind 

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of Mecca for all judokas.

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Certainly, I would be pleased to visit, if time permits.

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We strongly hope that you will have that opportunity.

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Allow me to touch on the subject of Japanese-Russian relations.

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On December 15, you will visit Yamaguchi prefecture,

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which is where Mr Abe is from.

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It will be your fourth top-level meeting this year.

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We all hope that this format has a profound significance.

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What do you think of it?

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atmosphere are always useful, and there is reason to hope that we will 

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make progress in resolving the matters we will be considering.

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I remember my very first encounter with Japan.

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At that time, I was Deputy Mayor of St Petersburg.

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Out of nowhere, Japan’s Consul General in St Petersburg came 

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to my office and said Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs 

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wanted to invite me to Japan.

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I was very surprised because I had nothing to do with Japan 

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except being a judoka.

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This was an opportunity to visit Tokyo and a couple of other cities.

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And, you know, a capital is a capital everywhere: there is the official 

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script and certain protocol.

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It is always easier to talk in the provinces,

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the conversation is more natural.

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will motivate us to have a sincere, very practical and,

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I hope, productive conversation.

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This year it will be 60 years since Prime Minister Hatoyama and Prime 

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Minister Bulganin signed the Joint Japanese-Soviet Declaration of 1956.

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The Japanese people are pinning high hopes on this historic 

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landmark as well.

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Do you think something special may be expected?

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You mentioned the 60th anniversary of the signing of the declaration.

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It is 60 years since the restoration of diplomatic relations,

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but relations between Japan and Russia have much deeper roots.

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In all, our diplomatic ties date back 150 years,

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more than 150 years now.

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Therefore, I do not think we should go only 60 years back but should 

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look deeper, centuries back.

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Maybe this will give us an opportunity to look 

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at the future from a more remote perspective.

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As for these 60 years, and in general more than a hundred years,

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we have had different periods in relations and there have been tragic 

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pages in our history, but since 1956 when we restored diplomatic 

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relations, regrettably, we have not had a foundation on which to build 

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ties that would correspond to our wishes and that are currently 

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required in bilateral cooperation.

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We are natural partners in the world and the Far East,

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but the absence of a peace treaty does not allow us to develop the full 

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range of our relations.

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Therefore, we will naturally strive to sign this treaty.

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We want full-scale normalisation of relations.

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The absence of a peace treaty is an anachronism we inherited from 

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the past and it must be removed.

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However, how to do this is a complicated issue.

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You recalled the 1956 declaration,

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and this declaration established the rules that should be followed 

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of a peace treaty. If you carefully read the text of this document,

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a peace treaty and the two islands are transferred to Japan.

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will exercise sovereignty over them.

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Yet this document was signed and not only signed but also ratified 

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by both the USSR Supreme Soviet, or the Soviet Parliament,

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and Japan’s Parliament.

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with this declaration.

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be fulfilled unilaterally, by the USSR alone.

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In 2000 the then Prime Minister of Japan asked me to return to this 

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process, this conversation, these talks, and to do so, incidentally,

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on the basis of the 1956 declaration. I agreed.

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that our Japanese partners and friends have remained within the limits 

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of the 1956 declaration.

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I think it is too early to pre-empt our talks with the Prime Minister 

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but, of course, we hope to make progress.

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You said that the 1956 joint declaration is a fundamental document.

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Mr President, you have repeatedly discussed this subject with many 

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Japanese prime ministers since 2000.

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The current Prime Minister, Mr Abe,

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acts on the assumption that a peace treaty may be signed subject 

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to a settlement on the status of the four islands.

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We understand that you and Mr Abe have been discussing this 

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subject for over a year now.

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Last autumn in New York (true, for only 10 minutes)

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, this year in Sochi, in Vladivostok and in Lima you 

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discussed it one-on-one.

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We have calculated that conversations in this format have lasted 

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a total of two hours and 15 minutes.

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Apparently, it was an in-depth discussion.

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What prospects, in your view, are there for a decision to sign a peace 

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treaty to be made at the upcoming meeting?

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Of course, we will work towards that end.

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Of course, we will work to achieve this result.

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However, you have just mentioned the 1956 agreement,

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and one may recall that these negotiations were later terminated,

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in effect, on Japan’s initiative.

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At the request of my Japanese colleagues,

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in 2000 we revisited the possibility of signing a peace treaty based 

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on the 1956 agreement.

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However, the 1956 agreement refers to two islands while you have just 

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said that the Prime Minister is talking about four islands.

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Therefore, we have already gone outside the bounds of the 1956 

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agreement. This is quite a different situation and quite 

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a different approach.

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I believe it is no secret that I like Japan very much –

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Japanese culture, sport, including judo,

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but it will not offend anyone if I say that I like Russia even more.

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Therefore, the Prime Minister and I will negotiate proceeding from our 

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national interests: the interests of Russia and the interests of Japan.

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We should find a compromise.

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We should understand that the results of that terrible tragedy 

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of the 20th century, namely World War II,

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are enshrined in corresponding international documents,

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and finding a way to settle all disputes without destroying the entire 

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foundation of international law that evolved as a result of World War 

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II is a highly delicate task.

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Therefore, I would like to reiterate that we cannot second-guess 

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the course, let alone the outcome of our negotiations.

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Everything that we are talking about has come to us as a result 

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of the events of 70 years ago.

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In some way or other, during these 70 years we have been involved 

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in some kind of dialogue on the issue,

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and that includes the conclusion of a peace treaty.

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However, I wish that in the course of my visit to places the Prime 

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Minister calls home, all of a sudden,

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we would reach a clear understanding on how we can resolve the matters.

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We will be very glad if that happens. Are there any chances? Perhaps.

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There is always a chance, or else it makes no sense to talk.

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How great is it? Right now, it is difficult for me to say,

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because this will depend, among other things,

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on the flexibility of our partners.

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I am not a politician, not a diplomat and not a negotiator.

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However, as a Japanese citizen and a member of the media,

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I would like to note that a very favourable situation has developed: 

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the 60th anniversary of the 1956 declaration.

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Mr President, you enjoy remarkably high political support 

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in your country. It is over 80 percent.

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And the Abe Government also has the strongest position in Japan of all 

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the previous Japanese governments.

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Polls show it has the support of 50 percent, or 52 percent.

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Taking into account these factors, and the timing,

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and adding a third condition, specifically that previously,

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a majority held the view that the four islands should be returned while 

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now, according to a poll, a far greater number of Japanese citizens 

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believe two islands should be returned first, as a member of the media,

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I believe that all of the three necessary conditions are now in place.

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And if so many conditions have come together, naturally,

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we would like to hope that this complicated situation, which,

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as I understood from your remarks, still exists, would be overcome.

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You have made a very good point: both the Prime Minister and I enjoy 

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a fairly high level of trust among the citizens of our countries.

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However, personally, I see this as not having the right to abuse this 

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trust, and any decision we reach should correspond to the national 

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interests of the Russian Federation.

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Yet our interests, the interests of the Russian Federation,

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include the normalisation of relations with Japan,

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which is not at the bottom of the agenda.

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The whole range of what will be proposed for a solution,

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the entire range of matters related to the normalisation of our 

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relations and what that would bring after normalisation,

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this is the whole range of issues to be discussed and decided,

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and those decisions should be of a practical nature.

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Say, the Prime Minister and I have spoken a lot,

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and we said all the right things, in my opinion,

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about creating an atmosphere of trust and friendship 

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between our nations and peoples.

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Our agreements on creating the conditions for preparing a peace treaty 

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should be rooted in this trust.

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This may be achieved, for example,

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by large-scale economic activities that will also cover 

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the Kuril Islands. It may be achieved by solving purely humanitarian 

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issues, for instance, unhindered visa-free travel by former residents 

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of the Southern Kuril Islands to where they used to live: visiting 

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cemeteries, native places and so on.

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This is the large range of issues we have to discuss and make 

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a decision on each one of them.

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Look, after the resumption of the negotiating process in 2000,

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we did not refuse to consistently work toward signing this peace 

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treaty. However, at some point a few years ago Japan unilaterally 

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stopped those talks and broke off contacts with us.

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It was not we who broke off contacts with Japan,

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it was the Japanese side that broke off contacts with us.

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This is my first point.

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Secondly, Japan has joined the sanctions against the Russian 

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Federation. How are we going to further economic relations on a new 

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and much higher basis, at a higher level under the sanctions regime? 

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I will not offer my thoughts on what Japan could and should have done,

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this is none of my business, it is the business 

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of the Japanese leadership.

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But we should understand how practicable all our agreements are 

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as a whole given the allied obligations Japan has assumed,

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how much independence there is in making those decision,

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and what we can hope for, what we can ultimately arrive at.

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These are not simple matters, and even despite the absolutely obvious 

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and positive preconditions you have just mentioned,

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and they really do exist, can we say with full confidence that we will 

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reach a final agreement right away? I do not know;

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this is a question that needs thorough discussing, even though,

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let me reiterate, we are sincerely committed to this result.

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Mr Abe keeps saying that it is essential to develop 

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dialogue with Mr Putin.

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For example, you have just mentioned unimpeded travel so that former 

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Japanese residents of the islands could visit them,

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and also businesspeople, tourists –

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to make those relations more free, and on this basis, probably,

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to develop joint economic activities.

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This will definitely be connected with progress towards 

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a peace treaty, don’t you think?

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Yes. As regards humanitarian issues and how to handle them,

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that was the Prime Minister's initiative.

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He brought the matter up at our last meeting in Lima and asked me 

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straightforwardly whether we would agree to let Japanese citizens 

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travel on a visa-free basis, resolve the issue in such a way 

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as to enable them to visit the South Kurils,

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visit their native areas. I said at once that it was quite possible.

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Our foreign ministries will simply need to sort out some 

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purely technical matters. I see no political restraints here.

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The same applies to economic matters. We, on our part,

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are ready. However, let me repeat once again,

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given that Japan has joined the anti-Russian sanctions,

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how ready is Japan and how can it do that without breaching its 

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commitments to its allies? We do not know the answer.

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Only Japan itself knows the answer.

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However, we need to understand it, to get a clear and precise picture,

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and to have some guarantees both now and in the future.

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Here is an example from another region.

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We negotiated the construction of a gas pipeline system along 

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the bottom of the Black Sea to Bulgaria.

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We signed certain treaties of a technical nature,

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contracts for laying the gas pipeline.

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And then Bulgaria created such conditions that the project's 

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implementation became impossible,

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which was obviously against its own national interests.

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The former Bulgarian leadership was, in fact,

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aware of that and acknowledged it.

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But we trusted them when we were launching that project.

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Finally, when it became clear that Bulgaria would reject the project 

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and that there was no opportunity for us to implement it,

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we were forced to scrap it too.

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We sustained losses amounting to millions,

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several million dollars. We would not want to get into such situations.

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I do not want to speak about our cooperation with Japan now.

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Thank God, we have had no such problems there.

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Nor would we want any to arise in the future.

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Therefore, everything needs to be pre-calculated,

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and we need to agree upon everything in advance.

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And not just agree, but shape our agreements into legally binding 

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documents guaranteeing the implementation of our mutual commitments.

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You pointed out once that the judo spirit should be used to resolve 

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the territorial problem.

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If we go back to that analogy, is the match still ongoing? That is,

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let us say, the Olympic regulations allow for competing 

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only for five minutes.

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Are we still within the five minutes? How long is it before the match 

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ends? Or are we already playing extra time?

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No, look, as I said earlier, we were in negotiations,

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but then the Japanese side suspended them unilaterally.

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Now, at the request of our Japanese partners,

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we have reopened these talks.

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What command is given in this case in judo? You probably know better 

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than I do: Yoshi (continue). So we will continue.

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So it appears that this command reflects the coinciding will of both 

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parties is to continue? In other words,

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there is another path that has not been trailed before the match is 

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over, and we are unable to say how much of that path is 

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still left. Is that how you see things?

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Yes, I believe there are a lot of questions today that require expert 

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analysis by various agencies: political agencies, foreign ministries,

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economic agencies and security agencies.

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We need to assess everything and understand what we can agree 

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on and what the implications will be both for Japan and for Russia so 

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that both the Russian people and the Japanese people come 

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to the conclusion that these compromise solutions are acceptable 

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and are in our countries’ interests.

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Does Russia believe it has no other issues with Japan except this one?

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Could you repeat that please?

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Does Russia have no other territorial disputes except this 

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problem with Japan?

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We believe we have no territorial problems at all.

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It is only Japan that believes it has territorial problems with Russia.

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We are ready to talk about this.

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But, as we see it, the exchange continues at a high level,

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and a new approach is being sought.

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The Japanese Prime Minister speaks about a new approach,

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and there has been some progress in this respect.

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However, judging by what you have said,

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that is not how things stand and there has been no progress yet? That 

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is the impression I am getting. Am I wrong?

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Yes and no. There is progress in the sense that the Prime Minister has 

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proposed, outlined, as it were,

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directions for movement toward a peace treaty and the resolution 

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of issues related to territorial problems.

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Now, what did he propose? He proposed promoting 

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an environment of trust and cooperation.

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I believe it is even hard to imagine that it can be any different,

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that we can agree to sign the documents that we are talking about 

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without trusting each other or without cooperation.

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That is simply impossible even to imagine.

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Therefore, we agree with this and in this respect,

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certainly, there is progress.

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For example, the Prime Minister proposed advancing to a new level 

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of economic engagement, putting forward eight lines of cooperation 

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in the most important and interesting areas both for Russia 

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and for Japan. The Prime Minister also highlighted the need to address 

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general humanitarian issues.

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We already mentioned one of these issues: visa-free travel by Japanese 

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citizens to the South Kuril Islands.

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There are also other areas. For example,

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culture. This is extremely important.

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We keep revisiting sport, judo, because I practice it,

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but other than that, there is also culture.

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Every year events that are in some way or other related 

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to Russia take place in Japan.

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Next year, we are going to hold a series of events there that we would 

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like to call Russian Seasons.

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Over 40 different activities – and what is more, in different cities.

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I assure you that interest in Japanese culture in Russia is just 

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as strong as interest in Russian culture in Japan.

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It is simply that we treat Japanese history,

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the history of the Japanese people and its unique culture with greater 

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respect and interest. This generates enormous interest in Russia!

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All of this, if we do it, if we work to achieve all this,

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we can and should talk about joint efforts toward ensuring 

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international security, and not only in the Far East.

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Are we not concerned, for example,

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by the growing danger related to the proliferation of weapons of mass 

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destruction and missile technology? All of this poses a clear threat 

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to the world, to the region.

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However, we have obvious points of convergence that are 

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related to our interests.

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If we act together along these lines, we will create conditions,

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the conditions for trust that Mr Abe speaks about,

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so as to take another step and conclude a peace treaty on certain 

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terms. However, first, it is essential to cover this part of the way 

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and then agree on the terms for signing a peace treaty.

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Both are challenging tasks but they are feasible.

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Mr President, you have just mentioned Mr Abe’s eight-point plan.

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You yourself said that this is indeed the only realistic way for such 

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cooperation, a way towards solving the problems.

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Do you think the implementation of this plan is one of the crucial 

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conditions for reaching agreement on a peace treaty?

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You know, this is not a condition but the creation 

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of a necessary atmosphere.

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We conducted talks on border issues with our friends in the People’s 

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Republic of China for 40 years.

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There were also issues related to specific territories.

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Now we characterise Russian-Chinese relations as a strategic 

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partnership, even a special strategic partnership.

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We have never had such a level of trust with China before.

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China is our major trade and economic partner among foreign states.

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We implement joint multi-billion projects.

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We cooperate not only within the UN Security Council, which is logical,

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as both China and Russia are permanent members of the UN Security 

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Council, but also within such regional organisations as the Shanghai 

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Cooperation Organisation, BRICS,

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etc. Now we are talking about concluding a free trade agreement between 

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the Eurasian Economic Council, recently established 

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in the post-Soviet space, and China.

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A similar agreement was concluded a short time ago with Vietnam.

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Then, we will coordinate, at least we are ready to do this,

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the Chinese concept of the Silk Road Economic Belt with our 

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newly-created regional organisation.

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So, do you understand how diverse,

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multi-faceted and deep Russian-Chinese ties have become over the last 

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couple of decades? And we resolved the border issue.

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This did not cause any major problems,

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if there were any in China and Russia in this connection,

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though we both made some compromises.

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But these were compromises between friendly countries.

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I think it is almost impossible to achieve such compromise in other 

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ways. I think Mr Abe’s proposal may be the only way 

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to achieving our goal.

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You speak about resolving border issues with China and a very high 

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level of trust with China.

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However, the relations with Japan have not reached such 

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00:42:34.509 --> 00:42:37.627
a level. Is that what you mean?

460
00:42:37.627 --> 00:42:43.861
Look, I have just said we have the highest bilateral turnover 

461
00:42:43.861 --> 00:42:47.984
and continue liberalising our trade ties,

462
00:42:47.984 --> 00:42:54.622
as you know. However, Japan imposed economic sanctions against us.

463
00:42:54.622 --> 00:43:05.876
Do you see the difference? Why? Due to the events in Ukraine 

464
00:43:05.876 --> 00:43:12.899
or in Syria? However, Japan and Russian-Japanese relations are hardly 

465
00:43:12.899 --> 00:43:17.413
related to the events in Syria or in Ukraine.

466
00:43:17.413 --> 00:43:22.129
Therefore, Japan has some alliance obligations.

467
00:43:22.129 --> 00:43:28.650
We treat them with respect, but we need to understand the degree 

468
00:43:28.650 --> 00:43:34.068
of Japan’s freedom and what steps it is ready to take.

469
00:43:34.068 --> 00:43:39.686
We should look into this, as these are not minor issues.

470
00:43:39.686 --> 00:43:46.207
Our foundation for signing a peace agreement will depend on them.

471
00:43:46.207 --> 00:43:52.227
This is the difference between current Russian-Japanese and,

472
00:43:52.227 --> 00:43:56.240
for instance, Russian-Chinese relations.

473
00:43:56.240 --> 00:44:01.758
I do not want to argue; you asked me what the point is.

474
00:44:01.758 --> 00:44:06.373
The point is to create an atmosphere of trust.

475
00:44:06.373 --> 00:44:12.693
Mr President, you mentioned a package of measures that we need.

476
00:44:12.693 --> 00:44:18.512
One of the directions, as you have also mentioned already,

477
00:44:18.512 --> 00:44:23.127
could be economic activity. I share this view.

478
00:44:23.127 --> 00:44:27.040
Regarding this joint economic activity,

479
00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:32.157
how do you envision it? For example, as one option,

480
00:44:32.157 --> 00:44:38.778
and this could be done on all the four islands or on some of them,

481
00:44:38.778 --> 00:44:44.396
a special economic zone could be established where such 

482
00:44:44.396 --> 00:44:46.904
interaction could unfold.

483
00:44:46.904 --> 00:44:53.727
How do you envision this economic cooperation as you speak about it?

484
00:44:53.727 --> 00:44:59.345
You know, first, I believe we should broadly expand our 

485
00:44:59.345 --> 00:45:01.753
trade and economic ties.

486
00:45:01.753 --> 00:45:08.374
In the past two years, sadly, Russian-Japanese trade has declined 

487
00:45:08.374 --> 00:45:15.497
significantly, and we should make every effort to restore the previous 

488
00:45:15.497 --> 00:45:21.116
level (at least restore) and increase it and move on up.

489
00:45:21.116 --> 00:45:27.035
As I said, we are natural partners, because, truth be told,

490
00:45:27.035 --> 00:45:33.857
we are interested in Japan’s involvement in developing Russia’s Far 

491
00:45:33.857 --> 00:45:38.472
East in general and in receiving technologies,

492
00:45:38.472 --> 00:45:43.187
for instance. And there are positive examples –

493
00:45:43.187 --> 00:45:46.947
for instance, in the automobile industry and other spheres,

494
00:45:46.947 --> 00:45:50.812
such as agriculture, where the Japanese are eager to work.

495
00:45:50.812 --> 00:45:54.658
By the way, we hope that Japan opens its markets 

496
00:45:54.658 --> 00:45:57.443
to Russian-made eco-friendly meat products.

497
00:45:57.443 --> 00:45:59.880
We have many interesting avenues in the energy industry.

498
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:05.728
Nine percent of the natural gas and oil consumed by Japan 

499
00:46:05.728 --> 00:46:12.080
comes from Russia. Another prospect for development comes from 

500
00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:15.723
the Sakhalin-I and Sakhalin-II oil and gas projects,

501
00:46:15.723 --> 00:46:19.500
which are up and running, with some 75 percent of the products 

502
00:46:19.500 --> 00:46:22.327
delivered to Japan under long-term contracts.

503
00:46:22.327 --> 00:46:26.222
There are plans for constructing the third plant.

504
00:46:26.222 --> 00:46:30.044
The work is underway to implement plans to involve Japanese partners 

505
00:46:30.044 --> 00:46:32.255
in projects on the Yamal Peninsula in Russia’s north.

506
00:46:32.255 --> 00:46:35.865
We have plenty to work on that is promising and large-scale.

507
00:46:35.865 --> 00:46:39.728
As regards the southern Kuril Islands,

508
00:46:39.728 --> 00:46:43.488
there are different possible options.

509
00:46:43.488 --> 00:46:49.383
We are ready to consider joint efforts on one, two, three,

510
00:46:49.383 --> 00:46:53.550
or four islands. The terms are important,

511
00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:57.920
but they have to be as liberal as possible.

512
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.758
Prime Minister Abe has mentioned this, and I agree with him.

513
00:47:01.758 --> 00:47:09.085
What will be the legal framework of this activity? Will it be a Russian 

514
00:47:09.085 --> 00:47:15.495
zone or a Japanese zone, or some kind of a joint zone? How can 

515
00:47:15.495 --> 00:47:21.397
the legal framework for this be organised? There could be 

516
00:47:21.397 --> 00:47:26.790
several ways and options. What do you think about it?

517
00:47:26.790 --> 00:47:33.302
I think the Japanese are a very creative and intelligent people.

518
00:47:33.302 --> 00:47:39.102
You have just shown a brilliant example of this approach 

519
00:47:39.102 --> 00:47:45.818
to the discussion by raising the point that economic activity can 

520
00:47:45.818 --> 00:47:49.669
develop on the islands that would be under Japan’s sovereignty.

521
00:47:49.669 --> 00:47:56.299
However, if this occurs from the outset,

522
00:47:56.299 --> 00:47:58.971
no second step is needed and the issue can be considered closed.

523
00:47:58.971 --> 00:48:01.724
That was not the agreement.

524
00:48:01.724 --> 00:48:06.436
We agreed to solve political issues first, fundamentally,

525
00:48:06.436 --> 00:48:11.082
and then the issues related to signing a peace treaty,

526
00:48:11.082 --> 00:48:16.789
or all of this together – but only if we are aware that we will not be 

527
00:48:16.789 --> 00:48:25.434
able to solve the signing of a peace treaty and territorial disputes 

528
00:48:25.434 --> 00:48:33.078
solely by drafting plans for our possible future cooperation.

529
00:48:33.078 --> 00:48:35.906
That is why this is a matter for detailed,

530
00:48:35.906 --> 00:48:49.938
reasonable and substantive professional talks.

531
00:48:49.938 --> 00:48:54.102
As a Japanese, I can say that, of course,

532
00:48:54.102 --> 00:48:59.281
joint activities have obvious advantages for Japan.

533
00:48:59.281 --> 00:49:03.749
And, if some progress is made on that track,

534
00:49:03.749 --> 00:49:09.538
it would be sound to achieve some advancement in solving 

535
00:49:09.538 --> 00:49:11.975
the territorial dispute.

536
00:49:11.975 --> 00:49:18.575
I think many Japanese people harbour such hopes and expectations.

537
00:49:18.575 --> 00:49:25.556
Mr President, you yourself have said that the 1956 Declaration is 

538
00:49:25.556 --> 00:49:32.854
the only legal document signed by our countries that indicates a way 

539
00:49:32.854 --> 00:49:35.815
towards solving the problem.

540
00:49:35.815 --> 00:49:41.738
And the Declaration says that Shikotan and Habomai will 

541
00:49:41.738 --> 00:49:45.651
subsequently be transferred to Japan.

542
00:49:45.651 --> 00:49:52.632
You have just told us that there may be different interpretations,

543
00:49:52.632 --> 00:49:59.612
in particular, regarding under whose sovereignty this may be done.

544
00:49:59.612 --> 00:50:05.535
I think if joint activities do yield fruit, if it works,

545
00:50:05.535 --> 00:50:12.409
then to what extent could the transfer procedure issue be solved,

546
00:50:12.409 --> 00:50:19.813
for example, under whose sovereignty could the islands be handed over?

547
00:50:19.813 --> 00:50:23.464
It is too early to speak about this.

548
00:50:23.464 --> 00:50:28.838
You keep referring to the 1956 Declaration but Japan 

549
00:50:28.838 --> 00:50:30.968
refused to fulfil it.

550
00:50:30.968 --> 00:50:38.066
If the Prime Minister and Japan’s Cabinet of Ministers return to this 

551
00:50:38.066 --> 00:50:40.906
wording, we will discuss it.

552
00:50:40.906 --> 00:50:44.759
If you carefully read the declaration 

553
00:50:44.759 --> 00:50:50.844
(its Article 9), you will see that it mentions the transfer 

554
00:50:50.844 --> 00:50:56.928
of the islands but does not specify under whose sovereignty 

555
00:50:56.928 --> 00:51:03.418
or on what terms. There are too many questions about this issue.

556
00:51:03.418 --> 00:51:08.387
Even the 1956 Declaration requires a lot of work.

557
00:51:08.387 --> 00:51:11.822
And if our Japanese partners go beyond its framework,

558
00:51:11.822 --> 00:51:16.314
this is altogether a separate matter.

559
00:51:16.314 --> 00:51:22.155
However, to make progress toward resolving such urgent and long overdue 

560
00:51:22.155 --> 00:51:27.323
issues, I would agree with the Prime Minister that we need to create 

561
00:51:27.323 --> 00:51:33.402
an atmosphere of trust, friendship and cooperation between our 

562
00:51:33.402 --> 00:51:36.163
countries. I believe this is exactly where we should start.

563
00:51:36.163 --> 00:51:39.016
Concerning the four islands.

564
00:51:39.016 --> 00:51:55.253
Mr Abe says our relations have recently improved in many ways.

565
00:51:55.253 --> 00:52:02.115
Regarding the peace treaty talks in the context of the four islands,

566
00:52:02.115 --> 00:52:07.459
as long as you both hold the offices of Prime Minister and President,

567
00:52:07.459 --> 00:52:17.920
will you be trying to lay the groundwork for resolving the matter? We 

568
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:25.535
have already said that both you and Mr Abe enjoy great public support.

569
00:52:25.535 --> 00:52:44.143
Are you committed to resolving this problem?

570
00:52:44.143 --> 00:52:48.670
Of course, we are working toward this.

571
00:52:48.670 --> 00:52:54.236
We are discussing this sincerely because we are interested in resolving 

572
00:52:54.236 --> 00:52:59.954
all the problems of the past in our relations with Japan.

573
00:52:59.954 --> 00:53:04.569
Nothing should prevent us from moving forward.

574
00:53:04.569 --> 00:53:06.321
This is one of our national priorities.

575
00:53:06.321 --> 00:53:10.796
This is what we want, and it is in our interest.

576
00:53:10.796 --> 00:53:16.556
That said, I believe that fixing some deadline that is limited 

577
00:53:16.556 --> 00:53:20.412
by my term in office or the Prime Minister’s would be unprofessional 

578
00:53:20.412 --> 00:53:26.656
because we should talk not about our terms in power but about 

579
00:53:26.656 --> 00:53:32.800
the quality of potential agreements. This is the first point.

580
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.130
Secondly, as I have already mentioned, yes,

581
00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:41.864
trust in the President is quite high in Russia,

582
00:53:41.864 --> 00:53:46.110
as it is for the Prime Minister in Japan, but I believe, for one,

583
00:53:46.110 --> 00:53:53.076
as I have already said, that I have no right to abuse this trust.

584
00:53:53.076 --> 00:53:58.723
Needless to say, each of us would like to achieve major 

585
00:53:58.723 --> 00:54:05.580
results in our work. If we achieve success… I know his position: he 

586
00:54:05.580 --> 00:54:11.328
wants to complete this process during his term in office,

587
00:54:11.328 --> 00:54:16.269
and I would also like to achieve some meaningful,

588
00:54:16.269 --> 00:54:22.924
significant results and not only in relations with Japan but also 

589
00:54:22.924 --> 00:54:28.269
in other areas, such as domestic policy, the economy,

590
00:54:28.269 --> 00:54:30.890
and international affairs.

591
00:54:30.890 --> 00:54:33.285
Naturally, I will be working toward this,

592
00:54:33.285 --> 00:54:36.240
but I still do not know if I will succeed.

593
00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:44.576
Thank you. I apologise but I would like you to give an earnest answer 

594
00:54:44.576 --> 00:54:51.484
now. Do you perceive Mr Abe as a good partner and as your 

595
00:54:51.484 --> 00:54:58.571
friend? What is your opinion of him?

596
00:54:58.571 --> 00:55:04.168
I believe that the Prime Minister is, first of all,

597
00:55:04.168 --> 00:55:09.985
a consummate professional. This is perfectly obvious.

598
00:55:09.985 --> 00:55:14.266
He clearly loves his country very much,

599
00:55:14.266 --> 00:55:20.741
is motivated to defend its interests and is very pragmatic 

600
00:55:20.741 --> 00:55:23.375
in how he goes about it.

601
00:55:23.375 --> 00:55:27.107
In my view, he is a very reliable,

602
00:55:27.107 --> 00:55:32.924
honourable partner with whom it is possible to agree 

603
00:55:32.924 --> 00:55:36.766
on highly serious, specific issues.

604
00:55:36.766 --> 00:55:44.229
As such, I intend to develop relations with the Prime Minister into 

605
00:55:44.229 --> 00:55:50.156
the future, including with respect to the most urgent 

606
00:55:50.156 --> 00:55:54.546
and important issues of our cooperation.

607
00:55:54.546 --> 00:56:01.351
Mr President, I would like to ask one more question about our 

608
00:56:01.351 --> 00:56:06.509
relations. There is a famous saying in Russia –

609
00:56:06.509 --> 00:56:09.911
“slow and steady wins the race.

610
00:56:09.911 --> 00:56:14.631
” The part about winning the race is clear,

611
00:56:14.631 --> 00:56:18.692
it means strengthening our relations,

612
00:56:18.692 --> 00:56:23.740
their progress. But what does the first part –

613
00:56:23.740 --> 00:56:29.259
slow and steady – mean? How can we define it?

614
00:56:29.259 --> 00:56:34.396
If you want to understand the meaning of this proverb,

615
00:56:34.396 --> 00:56:41.943
it urges one not to rush in making important decisions.

616
00:56:41.943 --> 00:56:53.935
Acting carefully and slowly, it is possible to achieve a better result.

617
00:56:53.935 --> 00:56:58.874
This proverb does not call for sabotaging a goal,

618
00:56:58.874 --> 00:57:08.160
it does not call for pretending instead of taking real 

619
00:57:08.160 --> 00:57:14.647
steps to reach a goal.

620
00:57:14.647 --> 00:57:21.929
No, this is a call for high-quality work without rushing about hastily.

621
00:57:21.929 --> 00:57:28.954
Thank you. Now I would like to digress from Russian-Japanese relations 

622
00:57:28.954 --> 00:57:36.270
and ask different questions. Relations with the United States.

623
00:57:36.270 --> 00:57:41.344
Mr Trump is going to be the next President,

624
00:57:41.344 --> 00:57:49.485
and you already had a telephone conversation with him on November 14.

625
00:57:49.485 --> 00:57:56.447
What are your impressions of him? What do you think of him?

626
00:57:56.447 --> 00:58:00.597
I only had a telephone conversation with him,

627
00:58:00.597 --> 00:58:04.344
whereas Mr Abe met with him in person.

628
00:58:04.344 --> 00:58:11.247
So, you should ask the Japanese Prime Minister what impression he has 

629
00:58:11.247 --> 00:58:14.896
about the newly elected US President.

630
00:58:14.896 --> 00:58:21.503
But it is well known, widely known that the US President-elect has 

631
00:58:21.503 --> 00:58:28.209
publicly spoken in favour of normalising Russian-American relations.

632
00:58:28.209 --> 00:58:30.872
We cannot but support this.

633
00:58:30.872 --> 00:58:36.493
Of course, we understand that it will not be an easy job,

634
00:58:36.493 --> 00:58:42.114
taking into account the degree to which Russian-American 

635
00:58:42.114 --> 00:58:47.075
relations have degraded. But we are ready to cover our part of the way.

636
00:58:47.075 --> 00:58:54.433
In your Address, you said that you are ready to establish relations 

637
00:58:54.433 --> 00:59:00.384
and develop cooperation with the new US Administration.

638
00:59:00.384 --> 00:59:05.903
In which fields, in which directions are you ready 

639
00:59:05.903 --> 00:59:11.718
to cooperate with the United States?

640
00:59:11.718 --> 00:59:15.460
In the area of international security,

641
00:59:15.460 --> 00:59:19.152
taking into account that the United States and Russia are the largest 

642
00:59:19.152 --> 00:59:24.977
nuclear powers: We are ready to jointly work to strengthen 

643
00:59:24.977 --> 00:59:29.814
the non-proliferation regime for weapons of mass 

644
00:59:29.814 --> 00:59:33.763
destruction and their means of delivery.

645
00:59:33.763 --> 00:59:39.588
We are ready to work together, and much closer than before,

646
00:59:39.588 --> 00:59:44.148
on the problem of fighting terrorism, international terrorism,

647
00:59:44.148 --> 00:59:48.696
and here we certainly have vast opportunities.

648
00:59:48.696 --> 00:59:52.551
If we had joined efforts some time ago,

649
00:59:52.551 --> 00:59:55.862
we could have avoided many problems the world is facing now,

650
00:59:55.862 --> 01:00:01.532
I believe. At any rate, those problems would not be so acute,

651
01:00:01.532 --> 01:00:08.430
with numerous terror attacks and victims of those attacks in many areas 

652
01:00:08.430 --> 01:00:13.386
of the world – in Europe and in the United States.

653
01:00:13.386 --> 01:00:18.129
We also never would have had such an urgent problem with refugees,

654
01:00:18.129 --> 01:00:20.611
I have no doubt about it.

655
01:00:20.611 --> 01:00:24.582
Then there is another area of activity –

656
01:00:24.582 --> 01:00:28.941
economic interaction between Russia and the United States.

657
01:00:28.941 --> 01:00:36.930
Right now, for example, it has already been made public that we signed 

658
01:00:36.930 --> 01:00:44.470
a large deal to privatise one of our biggest oil and gas companies,

659
01:00:44.470 --> 01:00:47.058
Rosneft, which sold 19.

660
01:00:47.058 --> 01:00:54.484
5 percent of its shares to a consortium of Qatar’s sovereign fund 

661
01:00:54.484 --> 01:00:59.998
and Glencore, one of the world’s largest traders.

662
01:00:59.998 --> 01:01:06.042
We know for sure that US companies, as well as Japanese ones,

663
01:01:06.042 --> 01:01:11.203
by the way, are keenly interested in cooperation in Russia’s oil 

664
01:01:11.203 --> 01:01:14.179
and gas sector, in joint work.

665
01:01:14.179 --> 01:01:18.268
This has immense significance for world energy markets and will 

666
01:01:18.268 --> 01:01:22.244
directly affect the whole world economy.

667
01:01:22.244 --> 01:01:27.711
We believe that we could do a great deal to neutralise 

668
01:01:27.711 --> 01:01:33.409
regional conflicts. Also, for example,

669
01:01:33.409 --> 01:01:39.840
to continue joint activities in space,

670
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:44.508
for peaceful civilian purposes.

671
01:01:44.508 --> 01:01:51.525
By the way, Japan is also known to be actively engaged in manned space 

672
01:01:51.525 --> 01:01:56.565
flights as part of the International Space Station.

673
01:01:56.565 --> 01:01:59.234
There are many other areas.

674
01:01:59.234 --> 01:02:06.251
And I am confident that each of them is of interest to both the people 

675
01:02:06.251 --> 01:02:09.886
of the United States of America and the Russian people.

676
01:02:09.886 --> 01:02:16.718
All we need is good will, and we have to start working in a way that 

677
01:02:16.718 --> 01:02:19.985
considers each other’s interests.

678
01:02:19.985 --> 01:02:24.143
In my view, this is a mandatory condition.

679
01:02:24.143 --> 01:02:28.695
As far as I understand, the president-elect of the United States is 

680
01:02:28.695 --> 01:02:31.275
ready for such joint work.

681
01:02:31.275 --> 01:02:35.229
We do not know yet what it will be like in actual practice.

682
01:02:35.229 --> 01:02:38.949
We have to wait for him to take office and form his administration.

683
01:02:38.949 --> 01:02:45.828
We have seen very clearly over these past years that there are quite 

684
01:02:45.828 --> 01:02:51.910
a few people who are sceptical, or let us put it another way,

685
01:02:51.910 --> 01:02:58.390
are cautious about the development of Russian-American relations,

686
01:02:58.390 --> 01:03:02.512
but the underlying fundamental interests of the United States 

687
01:03:02.512 --> 01:03:05.587
and Russia demand that our relations be normalised.

688
01:03:05.587 --> 01:03:15.775
Compared to President Obama, I feel you are strongly determined 

689
01:03:15.775 --> 01:03:22.540
to develop relations with the new President.

690
01:03:22.540 --> 01:03:33.030
Do you plan to meet with him in the near future and discuss 

691
01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:36.873
all these issues?

692
01:03:36.873 --> 01:03:41.237
You know, we were also going to develop relations with the current 

693
01:03:41.237 --> 01:03:47.970
administration, but somehow they did not work out well in key areas 

694
01:03:47.970 --> 01:03:51.733
and, I believe, not through our fault.

695
01:03:51.733 --> 01:03:58.466
I will not list all the problems that emerged in the past few years.

696
01:03:58.466 --> 01:04:03.516
Here is an example: while resolving current issues,

697
01:04:03.516 --> 01:04:10.348
our American colleagues made a proposal on the Syrian settlement but 

698
01:04:10.348 --> 01:04:13.551
then suddenly declared at the UN that they were not going 

699
01:04:13.551 --> 01:04:18.864
to discuss anything with us.

700
01:04:18.864 --> 01:04:22.693
It is necessary to understand what people want in one department versus 

701
01:04:22.693 --> 01:04:25.108
another department of the United States.

702
01:04:25.108 --> 01:04:30.584
Do they have a common position? And this happened many 

703
01:04:30.584 --> 01:04:32.624
times on very many areas of our cooperation.

704
01:04:32.624 --> 01:04:36.432
There are also fundamental issues related to what the current leader,

705
01:04:36.432 --> 01:04:38.636
President Obama, said.

706
01:04:38.636 --> 01:04:44.346
I am referring to his idea about American exceptionalism.

707
01:04:44.346 --> 01:04:47.451
I am skeptical about this idea.

708
01:04:47.451 --> 01:04:53.060
No doubt, the United States and the American people are 

709
01:04:53.060 --> 01:04:56.466
a gear country and a great people.

710
01:04:56.466 --> 01:05:00.478
Nobody disputes this, but talking about exceptionalism is way too much,

711
01:05:00.478 --> 01:05:03.906
and this is creating certain problems in relations,

712
01:05:03.906 --> 01:05:07.906
and not only with Russia, as I see it.

713
01:05:07.906 --> 01:05:13.848
As for the President-elect, he has his own views on things,

714
01:05:13.848 --> 01:05:17.071
and this is also fairly natural.

715
01:05:17.071 --> 01:05:23.920
I must admit that we have yet to understand how he will develop his 

716
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.452
idea, his pledge to make America great again,

717
01:05:28.452 --> 01:05:35.200
but I hope this will not hinder the development of our cooperation.

718
01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:41.343
As for meetings, I think the President-elect should be given 

719
01:05:41.343 --> 01:05:47.991
an opportunity to first form his administration and assume office.

720
01:05:47.991 --> 01:05:50.408
Meetings will come next.

721
01:05:50.408 --> 01:05:54.491
We are ready to meet at any time, this is no problem for us,

722
01:05:54.491 --> 01:05:58.560
but I believe we should be patient and wait for the complicated process 

723
01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:01.527
of forming the new administration to be complete.

724
01:06:01.527 --> 01:06:05.795
You have mentioned the economic sanctions.

725
01:06:05.795 --> 01:06:11.584
Of course, this is a very important topic in the relations between 

726
01:06:11.584 --> 01:06:15.551
Russia and the United States.

727
01:06:15.551 --> 01:06:18.536
Do you have any expectations due to the change of administration?

728
01:06:18.536 --> 01:06:24.049
This is not only a matter of relations between Russia 

729
01:06:24.049 --> 01:06:26.295
and the United States.

730
01:06:26.295 --> 01:06:33.442
In my view, any restrictions in the economic sphere that are dictated 

731
01:06:33.442 --> 01:06:38.196
by considerations of political expediency are extremely harmful 

732
01:06:38.196 --> 01:06:41.885
for the world economy as a whole.

733
01:06:41.885 --> 01:06:45.822
This destroys unity and the rules of the game.

734
01:06:45.822 --> 01:06:50.122
We spoke about this only recently in Lima,

735
01:06:50.122 --> 01:06:53.092
within the framework of APEC.

736
01:06:53.092 --> 01:06:57.495
Almost all the leaders represented at APEC 

737
01:06:57.495 --> 01:07:02.103
(the Asia Pacific region), Pacific countries,

738
01:07:02.103 --> 01:07:05.687
spoke about the same thing, namely,

739
01:07:05.687 --> 01:07:09.413
that we are going through a very acute crisis in world trade,

740
01:07:09.413 --> 01:07:11.968
international trade, related, among other things,

741
01:07:11.968 --> 01:07:15.410
to restrictions on the markets of certain countries.

742
01:07:15.410 --> 01:07:18.235
However, this is, among other things,

743
01:07:18.235 --> 01:07:23.121
the result of using political tools in competition or simply 

744
01:07:23.121 --> 01:07:28.204
for achieving political objectives with the help 

745
01:07:28.204 --> 01:07:30.797
of economic restrictions.

746
01:07:30.797 --> 01:07:35.315
This is one of the elements that is destabilising the world economic 

747
01:07:35.315 --> 01:07:39.027
order that was at one time created largely by the United States itself 

748
01:07:39.027 --> 01:07:43.441
at the dawn of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade that was 

749
01:07:43.441 --> 01:07:45.824
later transformed into the World Trade Organisation.

750
01:07:45.824 --> 01:07:50.573
Take the creation of the Pacific partnership 

751
01:07:50.573 --> 01:07:55.217
or the creation of the Atlantic partnership.

752
01:07:55.217 --> 01:08:01.866
We are somewhat concerned because this is being done bypassing 

753
01:08:01.866 --> 01:08:09.253
the World Trade Organisation, since it has proved impossible to reach 

754
01:08:09.253 --> 01:08:14.952
compromise solutions with developing economies within 

755
01:08:14.952 --> 01:08:16.826
the framework of that organisation.

756
01:08:16.826 --> 01:08:22.867
Is that good? Not really, in my opinion.

757
01:08:22.867 --> 01:08:26.529
If the world economy is divided into isolated economic blocs of this 

758
01:08:26.529 --> 01:08:31.192
kind, it will be rather difficult to achieve the same interpretation 

759
01:08:31.192 --> 01:08:34.906
and application of international rules of economic activity 

760
01:08:34.906 --> 01:08:39.290
and world trade. This is why we believe in the universality of these 

761
01:08:39.290 --> 01:08:45.686
rules. And if regional associations are created,

762
01:08:45.686 --> 01:08:51.614
they should work on the basis of WTO norms, on the WTO basis.

763
01:08:51.614 --> 01:08:59.025
This is our premise, but as to how this works out in the near future,

764
01:08:59.025 --> 01:09:02.892
when a new administration is formed,

765
01:09:02.892 --> 01:09:06.578
we are unable to tell at this point. Time will tell.

766
01:09:06.578 --> 01:09:10.195
We need to bring this gradually to a close or we will keep 

767
01:09:10.195 --> 01:09:12.576
talking until morning.

768
01:09:12.576 --> 01:09:15.159
Although I enjoy talking to you,

769
01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:20.579
I probably should not keep you here until morning.

770
01:09:20.579 --> 01:09:24.466
All right. You mentioned China. I would like to go back to this issue.

771
01:09:24.466 --> 01:09:26.090
Please.

772
01:09:26.090 --> 01:09:33.646
You say that your relations are on a very high level both 

773
01:09:33.646 --> 01:09:37.424
economically and politically.

774
01:09:37.424 --> 01:09:42.088
That is correct.

775
01:09:42.088 --> 01:09:48.249
In your Address to the Federal Assembly,

776
01:09:48.249 --> 01:09:54.817
when you mentioned different countries, as far as I remember,

777
01:09:54.817 --> 01:09:58.986
China came first, then India, Japan and only after that 

778
01:09:58.986 --> 01:10:00.791
came the United States.

779
01:10:00.791 --> 01:10:04.333
Do you believe that at present China is Russia’s most important 

780
01:10:04.333 --> 01:10:06.855
partner? Did we understand you correctly?

781
01:10:06.855 --> 01:10:09.396
Absolutely.

782
01:10:09.396 --> 01:10:12.011
Is that really the case?

783
01:10:12.011 --> 01:10:14.626
That is indeed the case.

784
01:10:14.626 --> 01:10:19.855
After all, China is our largest trading partner.

785
01:10:19.855 --> 01:10:23.983
As I said, country-wise, Russia trades the most with China.

786
01:10:23.983 --> 01:10:26.499
That is my first point.

787
01:10:26.499 --> 01:10:31.341
Second, we have wide-ranging joint projects in the nuclear energy 

788
01:10:31.341 --> 01:10:37.606
sphere, logistics, machine building and trade as a whole.

789
01:10:37.606 --> 01:10:44.091
We have good joint projects in the helicopter and aircraft 

790
01:10:44.091 --> 01:10:46.619
manufacturing industry.

791
01:10:46.619 --> 01:10:54.202
We are considering cooperation and are actively cooperating in space.

792
01:10:54.202 --> 01:10:57.610
There are good prospects there.

793
01:10:57.610 --> 01:11:04.204
However, the level of our political trust is also very high.

794
01:11:04.204 --> 01:11:11.239
We have similar positions on major international issues or even,

795
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:15.855
as diplomats say, our views are identical.

796
01:11:15.855 --> 01:11:22.340
We often have shared positions on key issues of the modern 

797
01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:24.648
international agenda.

798
01:11:24.648 --> 01:11:32.452
We have very close humanitarian contacts, wide-ranging youth exchanges,

799
01:11:32.452 --> 01:11:36.189
educational and regional contacts,

800
01:11:36.189 --> 01:11:40.146
and all of them continue to develop.

801
01:11:40.146 --> 01:11:47.510
We are expanding and improving the infrastructure of our relations.

802
01:11:47.510 --> 01:11:54.874
You must have heard about China’s plans to participate in building 

803
01:11:54.874 --> 01:12:00.479
a high-speed railway line between Moscow and Kazan 

804
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.766
in the Volga region, in central Russia.

805
01:12:04.766 --> 01:12:11.361
And then we plan to extend it to Kazakhstan and on to China.

806
01:12:11.361 --> 01:12:15.757
Under our regional cooperation projects,

807
01:12:15.757 --> 01:12:19.494
we are building roads and bridges.

808
01:12:19.494 --> 01:12:25.649
The scope of regional cooperation is constantly growing.

809
01:12:25.649 --> 01:12:29.167
So, we have every reason to say,

810
01:12:29.167 --> 01:12:33.563
and I note this with great satisfaction,

811
01:12:33.563 --> 01:12:37.118
that a truly friendly relationship has evolved with China,

812
01:12:37.118 --> 01:12:42.682
and in many key areas these relations, without any exaggeration,

813
01:12:42.682 --> 01:12:45.682
have a strategic character.

814
01:12:45.682 --> 01:12:52.460
As we say, the strategic character of privileged partnership.

815
01:12:52.460 --> 01:12:58.572
I would like to go back to the international situation.

816
01:12:58.572 --> 01:13:02.239
There has been a lot of populism,

817
01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:06.350
something you have mentioned as well.

818
01:13:06.350 --> 01:13:13.017
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.

819
01:13:13.017 --> 01:13:21.794
What thoughts can there be? Political populism always poses a great 

820
01:13:21.794 --> 01:13:30.958
danger because it disorients people, creates excessive expectations or,

821
01:13:30.958 --> 01:13:40.251
on the contrary, prioritises objectives that are clearly not priorities 

822
01:13:40.251 --> 01:13:46.706
or are simply impossible to achieve.

823
01:13:46.706 --> 01:13:52.775
This work is either useless or harmful,

824
01:13:52.775 --> 01:13:58.157
because there is nothing good about populism.

825
01:13:58.157 --> 01:14:05.629
If you wanted to hear my opinion on this issue, that is what I think.

826
01:14:05.629 --> 01:14:13.209
As a rule, this is done for the sake of political expediency by those 

827
01:14:13.209 --> 01:14:17.433
who do not care about the consequences,

828
01:14:17.433 --> 01:14:21.439
who do not think even one step ahead,

829
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:29.128
who do not want to think and do not intend to honour their commitments.

830
01:14:29.128 --> 01:14:35.192
I would like to ask another question regarding Russia’s 

831
01:14:35.192 --> 01:14:42.772
domestic situation. Presidential elections are set to be held in 2018.

832
01:14:42.772 --> 01:14:47.537
You enjoy tremendous support among Russians.

833
01:14:47.537 --> 01:14:54.250
How do you think you have managed to secure such a high level 

834
01:14:54.250 --> 01:14:57.831
of support? I would especially like to hear your analysis 

835
01:14:57.831 --> 01:15:00.413
on why young people support you.

836
01:15:00.413 --> 01:15:05.903
Perhaps, you should ask the people who support me.

837
01:15:05.903 --> 01:15:10.403
I think that people are able to see that I am working hard,

838
01:15:10.403 --> 01:15:16.201
that I am striving openly, honestly and sincerely to achieve 

839
01:15:16.201 --> 01:15:19.109
the results the results our country needs.

840
01:15:19.109 --> 01:15:26.051
I think that they are also able to see that not all goes well.

841
01:15:26.051 --> 01:15:30.968
Our people are smart and sharp-sighted.

842
01:15:30.968 --> 01:15:39.669
Yet, I believe that the main thing is to sincerely aspire to achieve 

843
01:15:39.669 --> 01:15:46.099
the maximum, so that the country feels more secure 

844
01:15:46.099 --> 01:15:49.000
and people live better.

845
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:55.682
That's precisely how I am trying to go about my work.

846
01:15:55.682 --> 01:16:03.248
And I am very grateful to our people who appreciate my work 

847
01:16:03.248 --> 01:16:10.309
and for their support, as without that support it would 

848
01:16:10.309 --> 01:16:15.605
have been impossible to get anything done.

849
01:16:15.605 --> 01:16:24.053
Do you feel that there is someone among the Japanese who you truly 

850
01:16:24.053 --> 01:16:31.254
respect and who has had a real influence on you?

851
01:16:31.254 --> 01:16:34.751
Jigoro Kano, of course.

852
01:16:34.751 --> 01:16:40.662
Do you have this person’s bust or a portrait?

853
01:16:40.662 --> 01:16:46.448
I have several portraits of Jigoro Kano and a bust too,

854
01:16:46.448 --> 01:16:48.657
a very beautiful one.

855
01:16:48.657 --> 01:16:52.549
Unfortunately, I do not have it here,

856
01:16:52.549 --> 01:16:55.916
or I would have shown it to you.

857
01:16:55.916 --> 01:16:59.598
I keep it at home, in my residence,

858
01:16:59.598 --> 01:17:02.228
where I live permanently.

859
01:17:02.228 --> 01:17:08.329
It's a very good, high-quality work by a Russian sculptor,

860
01:17:08.329 --> 01:17:15.483
depicting not just a strong-willed but also thoughtful and kind man.

861
01:17:15.483 --> 01:17:21.374
You have already said that judo is a philosophy as well.

862
01:17:21.374 --> 01:17:25.897
And judging by you that is indeed the case.

863
01:17:25.897 --> 01:17:32.104
(Laughing) It can be seen by judo and by those who love it.

864
01:17:32.104 --> 01:17:37.890
I see. If I may, I would like to ask the last question.

865
01:17:37.890 --> 01:17:41.467
On the eve of your visit to Japan,

866
01:17:41.467 --> 01:17:47.148
perhaps you have some message for the Japanese people.

867
01:17:47.148 --> 01:17:52.197
Do you have any words you would like to address 

868
01:17:52.197 --> 01:17:55.774
to the Japanese before your visit?

869
01:17:55.774 --> 01:18:01.139
I would like to say, you know, that, unfortunately,

870
01:18:01.139 --> 01:18:04.611
we have many unresolved problems.

871
01:18:04.611 --> 01:18:11.449
But a great number of people in Russia know Japan and love Japan,

872
01:18:11.449 --> 01:18:18.076
and I am sure that eventually we will resolve all our problems.

873
01:18:18.076 --> 01:18:21.968
Irrespective of when this may happen,

874
01:18:21.968 --> 01:18:29.897
it would not be an exaggeration to say that today millions of people 

875
01:18:29.897 --> 01:18:33.574
living in Russia and, I am sure,

876
01:18:33.574 --> 01:18:41.387
millions of people living in Japan have an urge to get to know each 

877
01:18:41.387 --> 01:18:47.018
other, cooperate and exchange useful information,

878
01:18:47.018 --> 01:18:53.567
as well as a sincere desire that all problems that still 

879
01:18:53.567 --> 01:18:57.014
remain unresolved be resolved.

880
01:18:57.014 --> 01:19:03.469
As a Japanese citizen, I truly wish that your visit will be a success.

881
01:19:03.469 --> 01:19:08.633
Thank you very much for finding the time for us in your 

882
01:19:08.633 --> 01:19:13.890
very busy schedule. We hope that your visit will be very 

883
01:19:13.890 --> 01:19:17.117
useful for the bilateral relations.

884
01:19:17.117 --> 01:19:18.039
Thank you.

